As I can see , the discussion leaves us all deep
in cow dung.
This is extremely unpleasant in concept but
this is how it was .
This discussion brings back a story of old.
In school they get a task: to describe life in a
poor household. Willy the son of very rich writes:
"And all were poor - the driver, the two gardeners,
all the maids , and cooks, - all poor as church mice !"
Hardy
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נשלח: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:07 PM
אל: Dale Prince; 'cornel fleming'; 'jerome schatten'; 'CZERNOWITZ-L'
עותק: 'Frederick M. Weisinger'; 'Anny Matar'
נושא: Re: [Cz-L] Book of the Month, January 2015: "A Sanguine Bunch"
Dear all
Just a few facts known to me, without going into depth research about the
causes behind those facts. 1. The majority of Jews in eastern Europe were
poor. Being observant they they had big families, which made them even
poorer. 2. Cow dung was used as binding material between mud an straw. A
mixture used as construction material. 3. Shakespeare's Shylock was a
prototype of a usurers. 4. Learning and scholarship were the most estimated
qualities among the the Jews. Every observant "Gevir" looked for a "Talmid
Khakham" as a son in law. 5. The Socialist Zionist movements rejected the
traditional social structure of Jews in which the layer of production
workers was a minority.
A belated Happy 2015 New Year
Yosef Eshet
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From: "Dale Prince" <daleprince_at_hotmail.com>
To: "'cornel fleming'" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>; "'jerome schatten'"
<romers_at_shaw.ca>; "'CZERNOWITZ-L'" <CZERNOWITZ-L_at_list.cornell.edu>
Cc: "'Frederick M. Weisinger'" <fredhotman_at_yahoo.com>; "'Anny Matar'"
<annymatar_at_gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 5:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Cz-L] Book of the Month, January 2015: "A Sanguine Bunch"
> Hi Cornel,
>
> Your words about economic conditions remind me of a couple of things to
> suggest there were in fact places in Bukowina where persistent poverty
> existed near prosperity, education, and high culture.
>
> Many years ago I was able to interview several older relatives who had
> known
> the immigrant generation of our extended family that settled in Chicago.
> Most of the immigrants were born in Sadagora between 1875 and 1900,
> emigrated as young adults, and had childhood recollections of Sadagora
> (Rohozna, to be exact). My grandfather was born there about 1879 and left
> at about age 20. All the relatives I spoke with emphasized how poor our
> family had been in Sadagora. Of course this could be an exaggeration
> reinforced by repeated retelling, but over the years an extended family of
> at least 40 individuals left the town for America. One relative told me
> that my grandfather said they were so poor the floor of the home was of
> cow
> dung. I don't know whether this is to be believed literally. Could this
> be
> true? According to an encyclopedia article I have seen about Sadagora,
> there was a part of the town where people lived in such misery that it was
> popularly called -- if I remember correctly -- Babylonia.
>
> Dale Prince
> New York
>
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