How did the German people get democratic
and liberal ?
Only after the Russians broke their backs
In Stalingrad .
Not before .
Hardy
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ðåùà: Aw: [Cz-L] Historical Amnesia and Memorabilia around... (Ladyzhyn -
2414 km)
Dear Edgar,dear Christian,
we should not get frustrated. Like the both of you so many of these fellow
members here are doing an excellent job. Rescue nameless bodies from
oblivion and take them home to our memory: by your travelling, researching
and keeping on drawing the attention on Holocaust survivor's testimonies.
And all Czernowitzers here are contributing their parts to the sustainable
collective memory day by day.
We will go on talking in school about what has happened and trying to
sensitize young people. Not by numbers but by names and single fates. We
will not reach all but touch some. And that is much and will bear fruit.
Have a safe journey, Edgar.
Kindest regards,
Marion
I am about to find a possibility to get my Selma-biography translated into
English to reach those who do not speak German any longer.
www.marion-tauschwitz.de
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Juni 2015 um 12:18 Uhr
Von: "Christian Herrmann" <cyberorange_at_gmx.de>
An: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
Cc: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>, "Marion
Tauschwitz" <mariontau_at_web.de>
Betreff: Aw: [Cz-L] Historical Amnesia and Memorabilia around... (Ladyzhyn -
2414 km)
Dear Edgar,
you are of course right with your diagnosis of amnesia. But is it just
"around" and are only the locals affected by it? When I tell friends about
my recent travel experience, none of them has ever heared of Transnistria,
and it needs a lot of explanations. The more informed think of it as that
part of Moldova, which declared its independence in the early 90s, and not
as a part of Podolia in Ukraine. Podolia? Where is Podolia? Nemiriv,
Bratslav, Ladyzhyn, Mikhailivka? Never heared...
And are we free of this disease? Ladyzhyn was a Soviet Gulag before it
became Cariera de Piatra under Romanian rule, and continued to be a Soviet
camp after the war. Did we ever raise the question who was imprisoned there
and why? What was the fate of this prisoners?
"Black archaeology" - as you found it on the ground - is a commercial sector
in Ukraine. Helmets, bayonets, sometimes even tanks or artillery are
valuables for local and international collectors. There is a lot of it in
Ukrainian soil. Searching for this collectors items even takes place on
sites of mass murder - at least this is what I saw at the site of the former
concentration camp at Janowska Road in Lviv. As long as there is an
international market this will continue.
So what can we do? You already have the answer, Edgar. Speaking about it and
hoping it makes a change.
Warm wishes for a safe travel,
Christian
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2015 um 22:48 Uhr
Von: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
An: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>
Cc: "Marion Tauschwitz" <mariontau_at_web.de>, "Christian Herrmann"
<cyberorange_at_gmx.de>
Betreff: Historical Amnesia and Memorabilia around... (Ladyzhyn - 2414 km)
Czernowitzers...
It's frustrating, but I think we have no choice but to accept that when it
comes to the crimes committed during the Holocaust by Nazi Germany and its
Romanian allies in Transnistria and beyond, it's all water under the bridge.
Read more on how nature is recapturing terrain and people fall into
historical amnesia:
http://hauster.blogspot.com/2015/06/historical-amnesia-and-memorabilia_20.ht
ml
What are we to do? I don't know, but at least I'm travelling, still
researching and I'm keeping on drawing the attention on Holocaust survivor's
testimonies.
Edgar Hauster <iPad>
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