Cornel,
There is still a small number of people in Carpatoukraine (Transcarpatia), who call themselves "Rusyni"
(in German the Austrian authorities made from this word "Ruthenen").
You are right, that much more people called themselves Rusyni in the XIX century, but when they tried
to establish a state in 1918 in Galicia, Bukowina, etc. they called it "West Ukrainian People's Republic".
So, in late Austian and certainly in Rumanian times, it is correct to say, that there was an
Ukrainian polulation, which spoke Ukrainian, or some dialects of it.
Historically, "Rusyn" derived from the old "Rus", so the descendants of the "Rus" population in Lituanian and Polish
Kingdoms, but this included also the population of modern Belarus, not yet distiguished from that of modern Ukraine.
Alex
----- Ursprüngliche Message -----
> Von: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
> An: 'alexander rosner' <alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de>; 'David Weiner' <dweiner_at_xs4all.nl>; czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
> CC:
> Gesendet: 12:14 Freitag, 14.August 2015
> Betreff: RE: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian
>
> Alex now they do,but not then!! Cornel.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-119532704-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-119532704-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of alexander rosner
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:44 PM
> To: David Weiner; czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian
>
> David,
> those, who you call Rhuthenians, call themselves Ukrainians.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Message -----
>> Von: David Weiner <dweiner_at_xs4all.nl>
>> An: czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
>> CC:
>> Gesendet: 21:32 Mittwoch, 12.August 2015
>> Betreff: Re: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian
>>
>> Of course there were people that spoke what we called "kigel
> deutsch"
>> but I had to speak correc DEutsch.
>> My mother has studied in Wien Germanistik and she was correcting me
>> the whole time. I remember specially tha when I wanted to pass
>> somewhere I said "Ich wil durchgehen durch der strasse" an she
> wil
>> correct me saying " Ein Dieb geht durch du passierst".
>> She tought me to read the Gothic print and even to write the Gothic
> letters.
>> About the Ukrainian: We had only Rhutenians not Ukrainians and
>> Rhutenisch was one of the official languages in Austria.
>> David
>>
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