Hi Lloyd! It so happens that I have been to New York,so if I asked you a
lot of questions about it I would have some idea of the sense and meaning of
your replies. Otherwise I would have no ability at all to visualise the
reality of your city. Now, you have been asking many questions about
our..and your..area of origin so you obviously have some interest. So I
strongly suggest that instead of going to the Catskills or wherever on your
next holiday you go and look at your ancestral home...and then maybe you
will understand the rest of us a little better!! Cornel.
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David! Excellent narrative of your trip back to Czernowitz...a trip back in
time. Did you have mixed emotions?
I am of a different character. I grew up in a neighborhood of New York
about a 30 minute drive from where I live now. I lived there from age 5
until I got married at age 22. I have no interest or desire to go back for a
tour. I have plenty of memories, both good and not so good, but let them
stay over there.
I love the neighborhoods I spent the next 40 years living in including the
two I call home now. So I understand your wife's feelings about revisiting
her former home where it all ended so tragically after many happy years.
Maybe she just loves her new home of 70 years just a little bit more and
does not want to endure or relive the pains of the War years.
Lloyd
On Aug 15, 2015 7:51 AM, "David Weiner" <dweiner_at_xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Sinds 1941 when I, together with my parents, were deported to
> Transnistria have never been to Czernowitzs. One of the reasons was
> that my wife did not want to spoil har youth memories with the bitter
remains of gone times.
> A travel agency in Israel specialised in this travel arranged for me
> and my son a program, a guide for Czernowitz, one for Kiev and one
> personal driver with car al speaking Hebrew and some English.
> The program included flight to KIev, and visiting there, travel by car
> to Czernowitz and return via Mogilev Podolsk to Kiev.
> The Hotels are goed band cheap but the brakfast is very bad. I would
> sugest to eat uitside the Hotel. The food is very cheap and if you
> like Ukrainian delicius.
> Kiev is a very nice city and there is much to be seen. When I arrived
> in Czernowitz, I sauw that the old Austrian buildings have been
> restored, the Herrengasse made only for pedestrians but it is not a
> living street like it was when I was small.
> One of the principal reasons for my trip was to see the building
> where I was born, and which belonged to my parents and now to me (but
> was confiscated by the Rumanians in 1941).
> Although I had an old map with the german names of the street and
> comparing it with the Ukrainian map I knew were it was I did not
> recognize it. Except for three buildigs, including mine, the other
> were destroyed or rebuilt.
> We were living on the ground floor and had a big kitchen 5x5 meter
> with a stove built with briks and on the side there was an oven where
> we baked bread and all kinds of cakes.
> The stove was gone and a family used it as living and sleeping room.
> All the other rooms were also converted to one room apartements and
> for this purpose extra doors were opened on the side of the building.
> We had also a fruit garden with some 50 fruit trees. The passage to
> the garden was blocked and on parts adjacent buildings were built
> partly on the garden. Most of the trees were cut down and the neigbour
> which has taken was was over of the garden greuw there vegetables. I
> have also visited the spot where 400 Jews (notables) have been shot by
> the Rumanians in 1941 and havs said Kadish and El Maleh Rachamim. One
> of the 400 was Chief Rabbi of Czernowitz, Rav Abraham Mark Which
> performeed the werdding of my parents and bought me imidiately after I was
Born.
> The big disappointment was in Mogilev Podolsk. They told me that they
> have lists of all the graves in the graveyard. The Head of the kehila
> gave me a writing block and there were written a great number of
> graves but some 40% had only a number and no name.
> In was looking for some 10 relatives but found only two: My
> grandmother and an oncle, my fathers brother. I wrote down the numbers
> and we went to the cemetery. It is a disaster. No proper entrance,
> You have to climb and hoop not to fall down.
> The grave of my oncle was onfindbar in spite of the number, The grave
> of my grandmother we did find but the stone with the text fel down on
> the grave stone and we could not lift it. WEl I said my mprayers there
> and left the place.
> Then they said they will show me the orphanage. They showed me an old
> building. I know there were 3 orphanages in Mogilev. I was one and a
> half year in number 1 and then one year in number 3. I also have seen
> number 2 were small children were kept.
> None of the buildings was eveb resembling that building. When I told
> him so i said that he does not know. Wel he gets money for guiding so
> he has to show something but with me he had bad luck.
> I was very hapy with this trip because the guide from Czernowitz
> succeded in providing me with a copy of the registry of the mariage of
> my parents and at last I know their exact birth day.
> David
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