Gary...
Let me make one more attempt to get a response to your questions:
1. The number of non-Jews for the Municipality of Czernowitz was not a deduction from my side, but relies on the data out of the General Census of the Population of Romania as per 29th December 1930.
2. Please download the original General Census of the Population of Romania as per 29th December 1930 at
http://hauster.de/data/CensusRomania1930.pdf
and scroll down to pages 120/121. In the line no. 1 you'll find as total number for population of the Municipality of Czernowitz/Municipiul Cernauti 112,427, to be subdivided as follows:
42,592 Jews
69,835 non-Jews, i. e.
30,367 Romanians
568 Hungarians
16,359 Germans
1,521 Russians
11,130 Ruthenians
29 Serbs, Croatians, Slovenians
78 Bulgarians
226 Czechs, Slovacs
8,986 Poles
11 Greeks
59 Armenians
30 Turks
19 Gagauz people
15 Gypsies
103 others
334 non declared
3. Please check kine no. 1 column 33 on page 121. There you are going to find for the Municipality of Czernowitz/Municipiul Cernauti 32,731 people, who declared having Yiddish as mother tongue.
4. I always assumed that all those people, who declared having Yiddish as their mother tongue, were Jews.
I do hope, dear Gary, these answers to your four questions will be helpful to you. Warmest wishes!
Edgar Hauster
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> From: grcpa1_at_gmail.com
> To: bconcept_at_hotmail.com
> CC: czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti: your 8/12/15 email
> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:23:17 -0700
>
> 8-14-15
>
> Dear Mr. Hauster,
>
> Thank you for your immediately below email response.
>
> Perhaps it is I who should say I'm sorry for the confusion, not yourself.
>
> However, I do have the following questions:
>
> 1) can you please tell me how you deduced that 69, 835 were non Jews. I
> understand that you multiplied 112,487 X 62.10 % to arrive at 69,835. But
> how did you come up with 62.10%?
>
> 2) specifically where does the 69,835 come from? Can you direct me to the
> census that has that specific breakdown and how you calculated that figure?
>
> 3) how did you arrive at the 32,731 figure?
>
> 4) how do you know that none of the 32,731 (= 29.10 %) who declared Yiddish
> as their mother tongue were Jewish? Does that not seem unusual that out of
> that many Yiddish speaking persons, not one is a Jew?
>
> Mr. Hauster, I do not mean to beat this to death. Your answers to the above
> four questions should hopefully provide the needed information to put this
> all to bed.
>
> Thank you Sir.
>
> Respectfully,
> Gary Rogovin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
> To: "Gary Rogovin" <grcpa1_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti
>
>
> Gary...
>
> Sorry for confusion and let me try to explain it in another way: In 1930 the
> total population of the municipality of Cernauti (Czernowitz), i. e. the
> urban population, added up to
>
> 112,427 inhabitants, out of which
>
> 42,592 (= 37.90 %) were Jews,
> 69,835 (= 62.10 %) were non-Jews.
>
> The summation of the three figures (42,592 + 32,731 + 42,932) DOESN'T WORK
> since these figures stand for the answer on three different questions,
> raised by the interviewers:
>
> What is your nativity? 42,592 (= 37.90 %) declared themselves being Jewish.
> What is your monther tongue? 32,731 (= 29.10 %) declared Yiddish as mother
> tongue.
> What is your religion? 42,932 (= 38.20 %) declared Mozaic religion.
>
> I do hope now, after mentioning the number of non-Jews (69,835 = 62.10 %)
> explicitly, the calculation becomes much more understandable. Sorry once
> again for confusion.
>
> Edgar Hauster
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> From: grcpa1_at_gmail.com
>> To: bconcept_at_hotmail.com
>> CC: czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti
>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:07:45 -0700
>>
>> 8-12-15
>>
>> Mr. Hauster,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. However, I still cannot reconcile the 112,427
>> total to your below breakdown of Jews AND non-Jews, out of which,
>> attention,
>> multiple entries,
>>
>> 42,592 (= 37.90 %) were Jewish,
>> 32,731 (= 29.10 %) declared Yiddish as mother tongue,
>> 42,932 (= 38,20 %) declared Mozaic religion.
>>
>> I assume that by multiple entries, you are referring to the above three
>> (45,592 +32,731+42,932).
>>
>> Can you please show me how you arrived at 112,247 (i.e. X+Y+Z+ etc. =
>> 112,247)
>>
>> Thank you sir.
>>
>> Gary Rogovin
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