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Hello Inbar,
I cannot thank you enough for having sent this information to me. I had
previously looked at the Yad Vashem database for Isaac Goldenberg, but I
never saw this page of testimony. In any case, I cannot read Hebrew, so I
would not have understood what it said, even if I had found it.
I am still looking for the letter from my mother, from 1971, which may
mention the names and addresses of my relatives in Israel.
In the meantime, do you know if there is some way of locating living people
in Israel? I would like to try to get in touch with the person who
submitted this Page of Testimony.
With my profound gratitude for your help,
Marilyn
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:20 AM, inbar dekel <dekelinbar_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> HI Marilyn
> I looked at Yed Vashem web site and found this:
> a person named: Israel Goldenberg from Haifa, Bar Giyora st. number 20,
> fill in a "page of Testimony" about his father Isaac Goldenberg .
>
> I'm quoting :
> victim's family and privet name:Isaac Goldenberg
> Date of birth: 1903
> Permanent place of residence: Czernowitz, Romania
> Spouse: Sali-sara vexler
> Profession: shoemaker
> Circumstances of the death: death march
>
> I attached the "page of Testimony" to this Email and a link to Yad Vashem:
> The Central Database of Shoah Victims' Names
> http://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=en
>
> Please note that the Page of Testimony dated 23/8/2012, quite new , hope
> you find it useful.
>
> Inbar
>
>
>
> 2015-09-01 7:23 GMT+03:00 Marilyn Gelber <marilyn.gelber_at_gmail.com>:
>
>> [Please post in Plain Text --thanks]
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Marilyn Gelber <marilyn.gelber_at_gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Radautz Landsmanshaft group photo, New York, 1909
>> To: Ilana Gordon <ilana_at_wordwizardsinc.com>
>>
>>
>> Hello, Merle, Ilana and Anny,
>>
>> Thank you for your kind welcome to the group. It is nice to be referred
>> to
>> as a "young person," since I am actually a grandmother !
>>
>> I have not yet had an opportunity to look at all the resources, which I am
>> still learning about, for tracing family members in Bukovina and in
>> Czernowitz. After I am able to look through the online documents, I hope
>> to be able to pursue any connections I may find there.
>>
>> I intend to post some photos soon, of the Goldenberg family of Czernowitz.
>> My hope is the remote possibility that someone will recognize one or more
>> of them.
>>
>> I also wonder whether anyone knows if there is a way to trace family
>> members in Israel.
>>
>> My Czernowitz grandfather, Emil Goldenberg, told me that his two sisters,
>> Betty Goldenberg and Sali Goldenberg (Goldenberg was their maiden name)
>> had
>> emigrated from Romania to Israel after WWII. My parents visited some
>> Goldenberg-descended cousins in the Haifa area in 1971, but I don't know
>> their names. I am going to look through some old letters from my mother
>> to
>> see whether I can find out who they were. Unfortunately my parents are no
>> longer with us, so I can't ask them all these questions.
>>
>> There was also a Romanian-born cousin of my fathers' who used to come to
>> the U.S. as a ship steward - I met him several times when I was a child.
>> (It turned out that he was a diamond smuggler.) His name was Marcus
>> Goldenberg - I believe that he had also moved to Israel after WWII. He
>> may
>> have been the son of my grandfather's brother, whose name was either
>> Isaac,
>> Israel, or Isidore Goldenberg, also from Czernowitz.
>>
>> With best wishes to all,
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Ilana Gordon <ilana_at_wordwizardsinc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Marilyn,
>> >
>> > I just read your post. My grandmother's maiden name was Regina
>> Goldenberg
>> > and came to the US after WWII. But she came as Regina Gedaly. My great
>> > grandfather's name was Benjamin Goldenberg. He and his wife Anna are
>> buried
>> > in the cemetary in Czernowitz. This is the first time I've ever heard
>> > anyone mention the family name Goldenberg. The Benjamin Goldenberg
>> family
>> > came to the states around 1920.
>> >
>> > When I was there in 2009 I was able to obtain birth certificates of my
>> > mother and grandmother. All birth certificates had the names and
>> signatures
>> > of witnesses on both sides. Since it was Austro Hungary at the time
>> > everything is in German. I will check closely to see if there are any
>> > overlapping names that you refer to.
>> >
>> > But who knows, who could be related. I know much about my mother's
>> > father's family the Gedalys. But I know very little about the
>> Goldenbergs.
>> >
>> > Who knows and welcome to the list.
>> >
>> > Ilana Gordon
>> >
>> >
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello Inbar,<div><br></div><div>I cannot thank you enough =
for having sent this information to me.=C2=A0 I had previously looked at th=
e Yad Vashem database for Isaac Goldenberg, but I never saw this page of te=
stimony.=C2=A0 In any case, I cannot read Hebrew, so I would not have under=
stood what it said, even if I had found it.</div><div><br></div><div>I am s=
till looking for the letter from my mother, from 1971, which may mention th=
e names and addresses of my relatives in Israel. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div=
><div>In the meantime, do you know if there is some way of locating living =
people in Israel?=C2=A0 I would like to try to get in touch with the person=
who submitted this Page of Testimony.</div><div><br></div><div>With my pro=
found gratitude for your help,</div><div><br></div><div>Marilyn</div><div><=
br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:20 AM, inbar dekel <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:dekelinbar_at_gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dekelinbar_at_gm=
ail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"rtl"><div dir=3D"ltr">HI Marilyn</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I looked at Yed Vas=
hem web site and found this:</div><div dir=3D"ltr">a person named: Israel G=
oldenberg from Haifa, Bar Giyora st. number 20, =C2=A0fill in a "page =
of Testimony" about his father Isaac=C2=A0Goldenberg .</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm quoting=C2=A0:=C2=A0</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">victim's family=C2=A0and privet=C2=A0name:Isaac=C2=A0Golden=
berg=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date of birth: 1903</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Permanent=C2=A0place of residence:=C2=A0Czernowitz, Romania</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Spouse: Sali-sara vexler</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Profession: shoemak=
er</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Circumstances of the death: death march</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I attached the "page of Testimo=
ny" to=C2=A0this=C2=A0Email and a link to Yad Vashem: The Central Data=
base of Shoah Victims' Names=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"htt=
p://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=3Den" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=3Den</a></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Please note that the Page of=C2=A0Testimony =
dated =C2=A023/8/2012, quite new , hope you find it useful.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Inbar</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">2015-09-01 7:23 GMT+03:00 Marilyn Gelber =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:marilyn.gelber_at_gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">marilyn.gelber_at_gmail.com</a>></span>:</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">[Please post in Plain Text --thanks]<br>
<br>
---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: Marilyn Gelber <<a href=3D"mailto:marilyn.gelber_at_gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">marilyn.gelber_at_gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:32 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Radautz Landsmanshaft group photo, New York, 1909<br>
To: Ilana Gordon <<a href=3D"mailto:ilana_at_wordwizardsinc.com" target=3D"=
_blank">ilana_at_wordwizardsinc.com</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
Hello, Merle, Ilana and Anny,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your kind welcome to the group.=C2=A0 It is nice to be referr=
ed to<br>
as a "young person," since I am actually a grandmother !<br>
<br>
I have not yet had an opportunity to look at all the resources, which I am<=
br>
still learning about, for tracing family members in Bukovina and in<br>
Czernowitz.=C2=A0 After I am able to look through the online documents, I h=
ope<br>
to be able to pursue any connections I may find there.<br>
<br>
I intend to post some photos soon, of the Goldenberg family of Czernowitz.<=
br>
My hope is the remote possibility that someone will recognize one or more<b=
r>
of them.<br>
<br>
I also wonder whether anyone knows if there is a way to trace family<br>
members in Israel.<br>
<br>
My Czernowitz grandfather, Emil Goldenberg, told me that his two sisters,<b=
r>
Betty Goldenberg and Sali Goldenberg (Goldenberg was their maiden name) had=
<br>
emigrated from Romania to Israel after WWII. My parents visited some<br>
Goldenberg-descended cousins in the Haifa area in 1971, but I don't kno=
w<br>
their names.=C2=A0 I am going to look through some old letters from my moth=
er to<br>
see whether I can find out who they were. Unfortunately my parents are no<b=
r>
longer with us, so I can't ask them all these questions.<br>
<br>
There was also a Romanian-born cousin of my fathers' who used to come t=
o<br>
the U.S. as a ship steward - I met him several times when I was a child.<br=
>
(It turned out that he was a diamond smuggler.)=C2=A0 His name was Marcus<b=
r>
Goldenberg - I believe that he had also moved to Israel after WWII.=C2=A0 H=
e may<br>
have been the son of my grandfather's brother, whose name was either Is=
aac,<br>
Israel, or Isidore Goldenberg, also from Czernowitz.<br>
<br>
With best wishes to all,<br>
<br>
Marilyn<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Ilana Gordon <<a href=3D"mailto:ilana_at_w=
ordwizardsinc.com" target=3D"_blank">ilana_at_wordwizardsinc.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Marilyn,<br>
><br>
> I just read your post. My grandmother's maiden name was Regina Gol=
denberg<br>
> and came to the US after WWII. But she came as Regina Gedaly. My great=
<br>
> grandfather's name was Benjamin Goldenberg. He and his wife Anna a=
re buried<br>
> in the cemetary in Czernowitz. This is the first time I've ever he=
ard<br>
> anyone mention the family name Goldenberg. The Benjamin Goldenberg fam=
ily<br>
> came to the states around 1920.<br>
><br>
> When I was there in 2009 I was able to obtain birth certificates of my=
<br>
> mother and grandmother. All birth certificates had the names and signa=
tures<br>
> of witnesses on both sides. Since it was Austro Hungary at the time<br=
>
> everything is in German. I will check closely to see if there are any<=
br>
> overlapping names that you refer to.<br>
><br>
> But who knows, who could be related. I know much about my mother's=
<br>
> father's family the Gedalys. But I know very little about the Gold=
enbergs.<br>
><br>
> Who knows and welcome to the list.<br>
><br>
> Ilana Gordon<br>
><br>
><br>
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