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Yes.I realize that. It was obvious that a great number of shopkeepers and
business owners in Czernowitz happened to be Jewish.
These deportations probably made enemies out of the Jew just like Stalin's
starvation policy made enemies out of the Ukrainians.
We can have an argument here over who was worse and who killed more, Hitler
or Stalin.
[Lloyd Marksamer]
[Moderator's note: Debating the last line of Lloyd's message would be
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On Aug 11, 2015 11:13 PM, "Hardy Breier" <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net> wrote:
> Siberia deportations were not ethnic.
> You got to Siberia not for being Jewish but for exploiting the
proletariat,
> Most of the deportees were Jewish because they qualified.
> I don't know how many non- Jews were deported ,if any.
>
> Hardy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-119526681-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-119526681-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Lloyd
> Marksamer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:49 PM
> To: lapidotm_at_inter.net.il
> Cc: Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu; Hardy Breier; Maurice Linker; Anny Matar;
> linkerm_at_ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Soviet deportations
>
> --e89a8fb1f32a086c7e051d0f3a42
>
> Excellent response. I read and absorbed every word of it.
> Some points I agree on. Others not do much.
> I am very pleased that the Israelis learned from the mistakes made by the
> Jews of 1930's Europe We can't rely on anyone to prevent our
persecution.
> We must take matters into our own hands and be strong both militarily and
> financially. We must not stand idly by again while our people are led
away
> to the gas chambers.
> At least Israel is prepared to prevent that from happening again.
> Regarding Chernowitz...Your stories and those of others here are
> totally
> nightmarish.
> If I was there at the time, I could never recount anything good and
> marvelous about life in Czernowitz in those pre-War years. The horrors of
> 1940-45 are WAY too real and terrible to minimize because a few thousand
> Chernowitzers survived. Nothing pleasant can block out the ultimate fate
of
> the majority of Jews in Czernowitz and in Bukovina. They did not ever
have
> it as good as I have read it here. They knew all about Nazism in Germany
> and
> Communism in the Soviet Union, but I don't think those threats were taken
> seriously. Many Jews even became Communist supporters. And where did that
> get them?
> All that Jewish culture in Czernowitz, what good did that do them? I also
> read here that the Jewish poets and musicians got deported to Siberia and
> Transnistria.
> Maybe these same Jews should have been stockpiling arms and ammunition
> instead of books and musical instruments.
> Call me names and criticize my opinion, but the outcome my way could not
> have been worse than their way.
>
> Lloyf
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