Yes Mimi,
And then they will begin loving us.
Passionately !
Hardy
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From: Taylor, Miriam R [mailto:mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu]
Sent: 28 August 2016 08:52
To: Alexander Gelman
Cc: Hardy Breier; Josefine Koch; Christian Herrmann; Czernowitz
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Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Happy birthday Ukraine!
I too am aware of the crimes committed by Bandera and his followers.
I lived in Czernowitz till the summer of 1945. Even though I was a child, I
heard and understood what the grown-ups were talking about.
Ukrainians still see Russia as their current greatest enemy and
historically Poland was also a great enemy! That is why they glorify
Chmielnitzki and Bandera. I doubt that many are aware of what these "heroes"
Did to Jews. I hope that in the near future things will change and they will
be Willing to acknowledge Ukrainian guilt in the murder of Jews in both The
17th and 20th century.
Mimi
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 28, 2016, at 5:31 AM, "Alexander Gelman" <gelman.alexander_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear all
>
> In my view It is irrelevant who was what for whom. What is important for
me and I hope for all on this list what was Bandera for us-Jews.
> And the answer is that he was a thug and a murderer of jews. Just
> because they were Jews. No discrimination, men women, children
> elderly. This is proven beyond any doubt. My parents lived through this.
In post-war Bukovina and Galicia we lived through this and witnessed a tail
of trials. The last one I personally observed on Czernowitz TV in 1977. An
accused Bandera follower testified how, among other his victims, he killed
a 10 month old Jewish baby by tying a rope around his neck and hooking it up
to a horse. In my opinion It is immoral for a Jew or Gentile to dignify
this thug by even engaging in discussion regarding merits of glorifying
Bandera. There can be no rational for it. Ukrainians owe us Jews an apology
for genocide they committed to us in 20-th century Including by Bandera and
his followers. How particular Ukraineans and the government if Ukraine
handle the legacy of Petlura and Bandera has to determine our relation with
specific Ukrainian people and to Ukrainean government.
> I do not hesitate to say it to my Ukrainean colleagues and friends.
> In Kiev the former Moscow Prospect has been recently named after Bandera
and this is disgusting.
> We, Jews, can't support this kind of trend. If we stay silent we will help
the history tepeat.
>
> Alex
>
>
> Alexander D. Gelman, Ph.D.
> Candidate for IEEE Division III (Communications) Director, 2018-2019
> Email: adg_at_ieee.org
> http://www.adgelman.net
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6
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