Hi Mark,
Welcome to the Czernowitz list! Many of us have similar questions; hopefully you'll find some answers here!
About the passenger manifest - I read "Olmitz, Maehren" - the latter indicating Moravia. At the time of WWI, many (including my family) moved to the west and away from the fighting. Moravia at the time was still a part of the Austrian empire.
Regarding the BMD database - it was created from handwritten indices that were compiled at the time the records themselves were being written. If a maiden name appeared in the handwritten index, it then also appeared in the online database. By going to the original record on Family Search, you'll be able to find a maiden name - if it also appears in the actual marriage record. For sure, there will be more details in the record than in the index.
That's all I have for you right now.
Good luck,
Bruce Reisch
Geneva, NY
?On 10/9/18, 19:21, "bounce-122978020-3497436_at_list.cornell.edu on behalf of Mark London" <bounce-122978020-3497436_at_list.cornell.edu on behalf of mrl_at_psfc.mit.edu> wrote:
Hi - I'm trying to help someone research their family tree. Help would
be appreciated.
Do the marriage records for the Czernowitz BMD database, contain the
maiden name of the wife? Sometimes I see it listed in the index, other
times not.
For example, there is a marriage record from 1890, husband name Naftali
Tepper, wife's name is Selde, without a maiden name listed. But maybe
it simply was transcribed for the database?
The couple that I'm looking for, is Naftaly Tepper and "Sussi Shapsa".
So this could bethei marriage record. But without a maiden name on the
record, I would never know for sure. Is it likely to be on an 1890
marriage record?
I did find marriage record for Sussi's sister Beile, who married Jakob
Reisberg. So at least I know that the Shabse family did live in
Czernowitz.
However, I'm not sure if the Tepper family actually lived in Czernowitz
proper. The Teppers had 3 children, all of who claim to have been born
in town called something like "Bojan". Does anyone what this refers to?
When the first arrived in America in 1915, she lists that her father's
address as not Czernowitz itself, but instead "52 Vorstadt Ross - Olimtz
Mikrew". Or at least it looks like that. Does anyone know what
location that is referring to? See:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TX-K9T3-K
When the next 2 sibling immigrated, it looks like the father had passed
away, because immigration record lists their mother's name instead, with
an address in Czernowitz. Likely the father died, and the family to
Czernowitz, which is where her Shabse family originally came from. Or
at least that's my guess.
A side issue is that this surname in America records, is listed as being
something like "Shapsa". In the transcriptions, it is listed as
Shabse. Would anyone know if the correct pronunciation would be with a
P or a B? :) Thanks very much.
Mark London
Natick, MA
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