Re: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support from Bruce Reisch on 2021-01-25 (The Czernowitz-L Archive)

From: Bruce Reisch <bruce.reisch_at_cornell.edu_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:51:26 +0000
To: jerome schatten <romers_at_shaw.ca>

It’s OK; I realized it must’ve been some meds.

This Romanian citizenship thing – one of my cousins who recently joined the list is trying to do this, too. It’s not for me.

Hugs from the snowy finger lakes,

BossK

From: jerome schatten <romers_at_shaw.ca>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2021 at 19:58
To: Bruce Reisch <bruce.reisch_at_cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support
Sorry... the meds I’m on have me completely fooked up..

I was looking at it on my phone - I’ll look on my Mac right now and on my iPad

YvP
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2021, at 16:48, Bruce Reisch <bruce.reisch_at_cornell.edu> wrote:

Karin’s message below was our first test case with “base64” gobbledegook. It looks good when received on my email; I haven’t yet seen tonight’s digest. But for you, it looks untranslated. Hmmm. So far no other complaints. We shall see.

BossK

From: jerome schatten <romers_at_shaw.ca>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2021 at 19:22
To: Bruce Reisch <bruce.reisch_at_cornell.edu>
Subject: Fwd: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support
Hmmmm so the
Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: Karin Perrin <karin_at_karinp.co.uk>
Date: January 25, 2021 at 04:28:48 PST
To: Alan Gavurin <gavurin_at_gmail.com>, Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
Subject: RE: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support
Reply-To: Karin Perrin <karin_at_karinp.co.uk>
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Hello Alan

I also live in London so we can communicate easily.

I was born in Romania (nee Karin Hellmann) and have therefore also applied=
for Romanian citizenship=E2=80=93 this was just before the lockdown and no=
w everything has come to a halt due to Covid. I have been meaning to get ba=
ck in touch with them to see what is happening with this application. I can=
read Romanian and speak it in a basic fashion, so can manage a little.

So =E2=80=93 as I was Romanian at birth I therefore qualify. My daughter an=
d granddaughters have also applied - as far as I know, you can have Romania=
n citizenship if your grandfather was Romanian.

Not sure you need lawyers but you definitely need someone who speaks/ write=
s Romanian and is familiar with the ins and outs. You will need to find (or=
have someone find) your grandfather=E2=80=99s birth certificate and probab=
ly also provide yours, and your fathers/ mothers (the direct descendant). A=
ll the non-Romanian documents have to be translated by a certified translat=
or.

I need to find the name of someone I have once been put in touch with who w=
as supposed to assist me =E2=80=93 but I did not contact him =E2=80=93 mayb=
e he can assist you.
Will be back in touch once I=E2=80=99ve got to the bottom of this.

Kind regards
Karin
Karin Perrin

From: bounce-125329760-87608252_at_list.cornell.edu <bounce-125329760-87608252=
_at_list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Alan Gavurin
Sent: 24 January 2021 17:26
To: czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
Subject: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support

Friends

Forgive me if this has been discussed before but my brother and I are consi=
dering applying for Romanian citizenship because our late grandfather was b=
orn in Wiznitz/Vijnita/Vyzhnytsia in 1911

Have any of you gone down this path? I know of at least one other Czernowit=
zer who is.

Can any of you recommend a good Romanian lawyer who could help us.

I have already approached two Romanian lawyers - one says he does not take =
cases where the relatives come from outside current Romanian borders (ie pr=
esent day Ukraine) and the other does not speak English so we are really st=
ruggling to understand the technicalities and I don't think Google Translat=
e is helping very much

Any recommendations would be gratefully received

Alan

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London
UK

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therefore also applied for Romanian citizenship=E2=80=93 this was just bef=
ore the lockdown and now everything has come to a halt due to Covid. I have=
been meaning to get back in touch with them to
see what is happening with this application. I can read Romanian and speak=
it in a basic fashion, so can manage a little.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So =E2=80=93 =
as I was Romanian at birth I therefore qualify. My daughter and granddaught=
ers have also applied - as far as I know, you can have
Romanian citizenship if your grandfather was Romanian. <o:p></o:p></span><=
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al",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Not sure you =
need lawyers but you definitely need someone who speaks/ writes Romanian an=
d is familiar with the ins and outs. You will
need to find (or have someone find) your grandfather=E2=80=99s birth certi=
ficate and probably also provide yours, and your fathers/ mothers (the dire=
ct descendant). All the non-Romanian documents have to be translated by a c=
ertified translator.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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al",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I need to fin=
d the name of someone I have once been put in touch with who was supposed t=
o assist me =E2=80=93 but I did not contact him =E2=80=93 maybe
he can assist you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Will be back =
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al",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards<=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
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quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN-US"> bounce-125329760-87608252_at_list.cornell.edu
<bounce-125329760-87608252_at_list.cornell.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ala=
n Gavurin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2021 17:26<br>
<b>To:</b> czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Su=
pport<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Friends<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Forgive me if this has been discussed before but my =
brother and I are considering applying for Romanian citizenship becaus=
e our late grandfather was born in Wiznitz/Vijnita/Vyzhnytsia in 1911<=
o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Have any of you gone down this path? I know of at le=
ast one other Czernowitzer who is. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can any of you recommend a good Romanian lawyer who =
could help us.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have already approached two Romanian lawyers - one=
says he does not take cases where the relatives come from outside current =
Romanian borders (ie present day Ukraine) and the other does not speak Engl=
ish so we are really struggling to
understand the technicalities and I don't think Google Translate is helpin=
g very much<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any recommendations would be gratefully received<o:p=

</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
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-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Alan Gavurin<br>
London<br>
UK<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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