Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 21:11:32 +0000
To: Elisa Heymann <elisa_at_cs.wisc.edu>, Czernowitz Genealogy and History <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>, David Cesar Heymann <david30111995_at_gmail.com>
Elisa,
Thank you for replying to my comment.
This is why I will always treasure my adopted country (USA) for the freedom without prejudice to choose to take any action that satisfies your personal and family wellbeing as long as it does not hurt your fellow's wellbeing.
My family in South America (a melting pot all born to former Bukowiners, Galitzianers, Morrocans, Halabis and Hocht Deutschers- Yekkes) under the threat of Comunism, Freedom, Political asylum and Criminality (Antisemitism was never an issue) had no option but search for other countries: Israel, US and Spain (Sepharad) that continue to provide stability and freedom to contribute along our "new" fellow and aspiring citizens and grow with our kids in peace. For us, it was a "practical" driven decision learned from our European, Magreb and Arab Gparents.
I'm happy and respect about your "emotional" decision and hopefully my kids and Gchildren will enjoy both the "emotional and practical" and decide which country offers them the best option (Hard to beat USA 🙂)
Happy 2nd Hanuka Day
Rony
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Rony,
To answer your question I'll use some prose my son wrote:
"It's a variety of reasons, ranging from the emotional to the practical. Foremost, our grandfather (to whom both me and my mother were very close, and admire enormously) always felt that he was an Austrian Jew, and to some extent, going through this process feels like a way of honoring him and identifying ourselves with him.
...
More broadly, Germany and Austria making provisions to return citizenship to victims of the holocaust and their descendants is part of the respective federal republics recognizing the harm their predecessor states did, and I'm also happy to participate in a process of historical memory/atonement/reconciliation. "
I hope this help you understand why there are many of us going though this ordeal.
Elisa Heymann
With all due respect to all the members of this list.
I am also a direct descendant of Bucovina. My GGparents were from South Galitzia, Czernovitz, Radautz and Arbore. All former A-H jurisdictions. My maternal Gfather fought and was wounded with the Czernovitz regiment under Austria during WWI. However, being a veteran did not save him and his family from deportation to Transnistria. He and my maternal Gmother are buried either in a mass grave or in one of the countless unmarked burial sites nearby Moghilev.
I am the son of Holocaust survivors, born in Venezuela, today proudly a U.S. citizen. Raised without hatred but with a solid Jewish identity, a strong foundation of our origins, and memories of a "Vanished World" (as coined by Mr. Christian's blog). I would add: Intentional Vanished World...
While the U.S. is not perfect, and I value a society and system of free choice, I am baffled why anyone holding US or Israeli citizenship would ever entertain (so intensely by some in this and other blogs, yes including FB), the idea of an Austrian passport.
Why is this so important?
I would understand if you were trying to migrate from a troubled (i.e. Venezuela) or a country with increasing antisemitic incidents.
https://www.dw.com/en/austria-antisemitic-crimes-hit-record-high-in-2020/a-57343980
At the end of the day, everyone is free to choose...
Happy Hanuka
[cid:part1.SMMRPoSs.KP9KSwmG_at_cs.wisc.edu]<https://www.dw.com/en/austria-antisemitic-crimes-hit-record-high-in-2020/a-57343980>
Austria: Antisemitic crimes hit record high in 2020<https://www.dw.com/en/austria-antisemitic-crimes-hit-record-high-in-2020/a-57343980>
The Jewish Community of Vienna has found that right-wing ideology played a significant role behind Austria's antisemitic attacks.
www.dw.com<http://www.dw.com>
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Rony Eisenthal
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