RE: [Cz-L] Number of Jews saved by Popovici

From: cornel fleming <>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 09:37:02 +0100
To: 'Miriam Taylor' <>, 'Czernowitz Genealogy and History' <>
Reply-to: cornel fleming <>

Hi mimi, you keep referring to the city authorities with whom you have been
in contact.could you let us know who these people are and at what level of
authority/decisionmaking power? Thanks, cornel

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Miriam Taylor
Sent: 18 May 2008 15:37
To: 'Czernowitz Genealogy and History'
Subject: [Cz-L] Number of Jews saved by Popovici

I appreciate the good intentions of all who have written on this subject.
But as I have written before, the city authorities have questioned me on
this matter and I asked Dr.Radu Ioanid author of "Holocaustul in Romania"
to write them what the number of people saved by Traian Popovici was.
Dr. Ioanid could not write to Chernivtsi himself, but one of his colleagues
at the Holocaust Museum did.
A letter was sent to the city authorities, giving the number as 19600.

This is a copy of the relevant part of the letter:

>> to retain in the city some 15, 600 Jews as
>> "specialists", along with some 4, 000 others to whom he himself had
>> issued"
>> temporary permits"
>> This information is based on the archival sources that could be
>> found in the
>> following archives and publication:
>> USHMM Archives RG - 25-004M, roll# 14 (original document in the
>> State Archives
>> of the Chernivtsi Region, fond 2868, opis 1, delo 207 ), also see
>> Carp,
>> _Cartea neagra_, ( Black Book) volume 3, p.141

I do not have the Cartea Neagra in the original Romanian, but I do have
the English translation. The following, I believe to be the relevant

> November 15, 1941
> The deportation of Jews from Czernowitz ended. By this time approx. 30 000
> Jews had been deported from the town, and the 15 600 who remained had
> permission to do so from the selection committee, as had the 4 000 who
> given temporary exemption permits by the town Mayor.

Therefore, let's please leave the number at 19600 and have no further
discussions about it. I think that if I again change the number, when I
write the Chernivtsi city authorities they might say NO to the whole

Shavua tov,

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