RE: [Cz-L] CZ Directory 1936

From: berti glaubach <bertigl_at_windowslive.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:39:50 +0200
To: Mimi Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>, Edgar Hauser <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>, "czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>
Reply-to: berti glaubach <bertigl_at_windowslive.com>

(janitor)Hello All,
 
A little more about completeness and mistakes!
 
As Edgar presented to us all the data on excel it was an easy job of only some minutes to check
the neighbors on a specific address and look for inexactitudes in a sub list. I remembered
(my father being also the administrator of the house we lived) that the 3 entrances to the block on
Stefaniegasse 2a,2 and Dacia 6 had 42 units in total (apartments and shops).
The list shows 43 names of which 2 are doubly mentioned (one 2 brothers, the other husband and wife)
and one triply (one professor husband, one wife clerk and one student). So out of 42
the list mentions only 39 units. Now I definitely know about 2 names missing (one of them our
friend Marcel Spiegler whom I sent the list and who identified a lot of our neighbors is himself not on it) and
the other lived door to door near us. With these two of my friends' families omitted the count is 41
and only one unit I still can't account for. It might be the Hausmeister (janitor).
 
I found only 2 bad spellings, one Frochtel instead Fraechtel the other probably because of
bad transcript "im" instead of "nn" in the middle of a family name. Everything else was OK.
 
So statistically the situation in this case is quite good. Take into consideration that
this was not a "recensamant", i.e. nothing official, but only done on a private basis.
There might have been x reasons for people not to want to be mentioned, or the surveyors
not finding people at home putting in old data or just forgetting about them. I suppose in
big houses that were administrated the data were more easily collected than in smaller
ones where the people had to be found personally.
 
Well done Edgar, many thanks and I hope you will come up soon with the 1920th list, I have a gap of
16 years for my families dwellings for both of my parents' families.
 
Berti
 
 

> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:48:41 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] CZ Directory 1936 - What was going on in Czernowitz 1936?
> From: mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu
> To: bconcept_at_hotmail.com; irenef_at_netvision.net.il; czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
> CC: fredhotman_at_yahoo.com; frieda_tabak_at_yahoo.com; venivici_at_inbox.com; sylviegsell_at_hotmail.com; hardy3_at_bezeqint.net; marie-therese.guellier_at_neuf.fr; cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net; reinhold.czarny_at_t-online.de; cohen.zev_at_gmail.com; dana.dimitriu_at_web.de; hedbren_at_zahav.net.il; wolfgangs_at_comcast.net; eshet1_at_netvision.net.il; bertigl_at_windowslive.com; hekenvin_at_bellsouth.net; logan_at_genealogyindexer.org; akogan_at_netvision.net.il; m.goldberger_at_gmail.com; msuss_at_bigpond.net.au; vn18533_at_netvision.net.il; miriaminno_at_msn.com; henry_at_sinnreich.net; merlek_at_videotron.ca; jlrathome_at_juno.com; simonkreindler_at_mail-relay.iu.edu
>
> Dear Edgar, Dear All,
>
> I deeply appreciate the work you did in transcribing the 1936 address book.
> All of us are grateful to you for this directory as well as the previous
> ones.
> I am absolutely sure that any data which seems questionable, is not your
> fault, but the fault of the Romanian clerks who compiled the directory.
>
> Had it been Edgar's fault in transcribing the data, there might have been an
> occasional spelling error, or wrong address, but when people are listed as
> living at an address at which they had NOT lived since 1932, either because
> they moved to a different house, or because they died, then there is no way,
> this could be attributed to a transcription error. For instance, my paternal
> grandfather, Moses Reifer is listed as living in Manasteriska, but he died
> in 1932. My maternal grandfather is listed as living on Avram Iancu
> (Karolinengasse), where he had not lived since 1924. My father is not listed
> at all, or is listed as living at the wrong address and having the wrong
> profession. My family and I, lived on Strada Cronicarul Neculce
> (Schmiedgasse) and I remember neighbors who lived on the same street, yet
> the families I remember living on that street, are listed in the directory
> as living elsewhere or nor listed at all.
>
> At the same time, I found family friends listed with their office locations,
> rather than their home addresses.
>
> Does anyone know what the index number on the directory means?
> And, is there anywhere a list of street names (either Romanian or German)
> and locator attached to a map, so that if we know the name of the street we
> can easily locate it on a map?
>
> Many thanks Edgar and be assured we appreciate all your hard work,
>
> Mimi
>
>
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