Re: [Cz-L] Jewish roots in Czernowitz

Mimi, I dont understand the point you want to make.
   Jews lived in Cz before 1774 and must have had descendants.
    You say that the Jews who lived from 1850 were not their descendants.
      What then happened to the descendants of the older generation?
        Did they just evaporate or did they emigrate ?
   Hardy
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From: "Miriam Taylor" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
To: "Jack L." <jackisa_at_aol.com>; <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Cc: <w.a.t-r_at_athenaeum.se>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Jewish roots in Czernowitz

>
>
> OK, there may have been Jews in Czernowitz before it became part of the
> Austrian empire.
> But I think that in the period from 1850 till 1944, very, very few Jewish
> Czernowitzers were=20
> the descendants of Jews who had lived in Czernowitz before 1774 or 1775.
> Since members of this list constitute a relatively random sample of
> Czernowitzer Jews,=20
> It would be interesting to find out if any can trace their ancestors as
> living in Czernowitz,
> earlier than 1850.
>
> Mimi
>
>
> On 9/16/10 12:14 PM, "Jack L." <jackisa_at_aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Czernowiters,
>>=20
>> Prior to 1770 the area known later as Bukovina, including Czernowitz,
>> was=
> part
>> of Moldavia a vassal of Turkey, but with their own prince. At this time
>> Russia occupied this territory. They built a mint in Tarnawa-Sadagora
>> beginning in 1770. In 1774 this area was occupied by Austria and
>> officia=
> lly
>> became of Austria on August 31, 1774.
>>=20
>> According to The Era of the Moldavian Princes by Dr. Manfred Reifer this
>> =
> area
>> was probably occupied by Jews since Roman-Dacian times
>> (Cecina=3DCzernowit=
> z).
>> In Monte Castro of Moldavia, in 1330 Jews had their own section of the
>> ci=
> ty
>> and carried on trade.
>>=20
>> Jewish hostels in the area at this time likely accommodated Polish Jewish
>> trade caravans and Jewish caravans from Constantinople. In 1408 prince
>> Alexander the Good made a contract with Moldavia merchants with special
>> provision for Jews.
>>=20
>> Reifer states =B3Without doubt, there was already a Jewish settlement in
>> Czernowitz=B2 [in 1540].
>>=20
>> Jews in the 1600=B9s in Moldavia dominated most business and trade.
>> =B3The Je=
> wish
>> merchants dealt with tobacco, cotton, rice, and foot wear, supplies for
>> farmers, fabric and fancy goods. They also engaged in the cattle and
>> grai=
> n
>> businesses.=B2 =B3In the 17th century, the wine and brandy trade was an
>> exclu=
> sive
>> product and business monopoly of the Jews=B2, which is where I probably
>> got=
> my
>> name from.
>> Sincerely
>> Jack Likwornik [Liquornik]
>> P.S. The Jew survived the attacks from Chmielnitzki's hordes and further
>> attacks and even got a certain amount of self-government.
>>=20
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