Re: [Cz-L] They are at it again - Ukraine's nationalists protest Jewish pilgrimage

From: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:39:45 -0400
To: Gary Rogovin <grcpa_at_att.net>
Reply-to: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>

Would it be possible to restrict our correspondence to matters
concerning our old ties and new hopes for Czernowitz/Chernivtsi
and vicinity?

Gary writes that Sadagora Gentiles, not inviting a group of Chasidim
to use their private bathrooms, is worse than a rabbi, telling his
disciples
that it is OK to murder babies, when they pose a threat to Jews.

This opinion, not only has nothing to do with Czernowitz,
but is against all that Czernowitz stood for.

Mimi

[Moderators agree to end this thread now, and ask that you continue this thread on the off-topic blog, if you wish. All posts concerning the history and/or genealogy of the Jews of Sadagora and Czernowitz will continue to be accepted on this list.]

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Gary Rogovin wrote:

> Hello Cornel,
>
> I appreciate your comments.
>
> I agree with you that "it is wrong to judge a whole community by the
> unacceptable and disgusting behaviour of the lunatic fringe" and
> that was
> inclusive in my statement i.e. "... with the possible exception of
> some
> extremists living in Israeli settlements on former Arab land", which
> intuitively includes such extremists anywhere within Israel.
>
> However, to compare the inhospitability of Ukranians in the town of
> Uman to
> the extremist Jewish Rabbi and his group, is like trying to compare
> apples
> and oranges.
>
> The Rabbi you refer to, Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, wrote in his book
> "The King's
> Torah" that even babies and children can be killed if they pose a
> threat to
> the nation. He bases the majority of his teachings on passages quoted
> from the Bible, to which he adds his opinions and beliefs. He
> stated that
> "It is permissible to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they
> are not
> responsible for the threatening situation," adding that "If we kill a
> Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments -
> because we
> care about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the murder".

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