Re: czernowitz-l digest: April 24, 2012

From: Helene Ryding <hryding_at_yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:58:59 +0300
To: Czernowitz Genealogy and History <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
Reply-to: Helene Ryding <hryding_at_yahoo.co.uk>

Dear Lisa and maybe other Listers

I tried the memorial website mentioned below and didn't have any difficulty finding it, nor did I have to register.

For those without a cyrillic keyboard, this is what I did. On my Mac I can change the language of the keyboard, and I have installed a Russian-phonetic keyboard. This allows you to type in "English" and it transliterates into Russian letters. Not always perfectly, but often enough. I guess it's better with a proper cyrillic keyboard, but that assumes you know how to write and spell in Russian. I suppose the same phonetic keyboard is available on PCs.

I checked with Yankel and Bora Litman born in 1920 but got nothing. Then I thought maybe Litman was not transliterated properly. So I just searched with Litman (Литман) and a whole list came up, including several people born around 1920 and including some with clearly Jewish names. But I couldn't find a Yankel or a Bora. But perhaps these were short familiar versions of their formal names, and you might recognise their formal name. Maybe someone can advise about this. Of course you still have to be able to read the cyrillic results, but I can help with that, and searching, if there is more information available.

There were 20 Litman (Литман) names, with birth dates between 1899 and 1924, and the death dates are all between 1941 and 1945. But the birth places are mainly in Ukraine (meaning before the war). At least that was what came up on the first search. After some fiddling around, it seemed there are other records and other fields can be included. Finally I got 135 records with Litman, though some have this as the first name not the surname. These names come with birthplaces from all over the Soviet Union (of that time) and cover deaths in the Second World War period, as far as I can tell.

I didn't have any luck with my own name searches but maybe it's a useful research tool for others.

Helene

Helene Ryding
hryding_at_yahoo.co.uk

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> Subject: [Cz-L] military records
> From: Lisa Cohn <aforestclearing_at_yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:29:56 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 21
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> I'm sorry, I forgot to switch to plain text. Just a repeat of what I sent before. Sorry to repeat, but I didn't realize all the gibberish that would clog my email, hate for someone to have to read through that.
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> This is a good site, but I don't read or speak Russian. I tried with the assistance of Google Translate, but came up empty. Anyone out there read Russian can give http://www.obd-memorial.ru a try for me?
> Yankel Litman
> Bora Litman
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> Drafted in Chernovitz around 1941 during that period. They were young men, so I'd assume a birth year of about 1920?
> That's just a guess. Reall appreciate any assist. Thanks for the advice.
>
> Lisa
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