Re: [Cz-L] Dr. Pitor Czerniewicz

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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:24:20 -0700
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[Moderator's note: We are ending this thread here - as the general question of who is a Jew and who is not is off-topic for our list. If you have further on-topic posts related to Dr. Rigaud's question, feel free to post to the list or reply to him privately at <>. Moderator B]

Traditionally, a Jew is one born of a Jewish mother. Abram was not a Jew. He then made a covenant with God and Abraham became the father of the future Jewish nation, as well as the Muslim nation, through his offspring. While the Bible is silent about Sarah, the presumption is that she was the mother of the Jewish nation, probably due to Abram's acceptance of the covenant. (I'm not up to date on the Bible. This is what I remember.) This is how a Jew is born.

Then there's a difference between a practicing Jew and a Jew by birth.

On Sun, 3/23/14, Gary Davis <> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Dr. Pitor Czerniewicz
 To: "" <>, "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <>,, "Jerome Schatten" <>
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 9:29 PM
 Having a Jewish mother (certified by
 an appropriate rabbi, I suppose)
 makes it easier to be ³certified" as Jewish, but it is
 neither necessary
 or sufficient to have a Jewish mother.  If it were
 necessary, Avraham
 would not have been Jewish and we wold be in a mess. 
 Practicing Judaism
 is necessary.  Deciding what it means to be
 ³practicing Judaism² is a
 whole other problem.  There is no genetic code for
 Jews.  There are many
 Jews who do not have a Jewish mother.
 OK, how does this very complex question fit into this
 discussion group?
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