Re: [Cz-L] Fundamental Genealogical Question

According to Jewish tradition, it is permissible that first cousins
marry,
also uncle and niece can marry. In my family there are cases of both.
Not only is it permissible, but it was often done in rural areas
in order to keep the land in the family or if the bride did not have
a dowry.

Mimi
On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Gary Rogovin wrote:

> 3-13-14
>
> Mr. Davis,
> In your example you have two great grandmothers. In order for your
> great grandmother's mother to also be your other great
> grandmother¹s mother, it would have to mean that your two great
> grandmothers were sisters. In order for your two great grandmothers
> to be sisters, it would have to mean that one of the sisters is the
> mother of your grandfather and the other sister is the mother of
> your grandmother. Is that the case, assuming there was no breaking
> the usual rules about marrying relatives? If that is not the case,
> could you kindly explain to me then in simple terms, how your great
> grandmother¹s mother could also be your other great grandmother¹s
> mother, assuming no divorce and subsequent marriage.
>
> Thank you, Sir.
>
> Gary Rogovin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Davis" <ashglen_at_rogers.com>
> To: "Gary Rogovin" <grcpa_at_att.net>; "jerome schatten" <romers_at_shaw.ca>
> Cc: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Fundamental Genealogical Question
>
>
> Yes, but beyond a couple of generations it is possible that one or
> more
> ancestors could be in two places on the chart. For example my great
> grandmother¹s mother could also be my other great grandmother¹s mother
> without breaking the usual rules about marrying relatives (assuming a
> formal marriage took place).
>
> But at that stage some form of notation is needed, and as a Jew I
> have an
> aversion to assigning numbers to people. I make exceptions where
> athletes
> are concerned and in some other cases. Maybe M and F would be better.
> Then, using Gary Rogovin¹s method, I would be M (for male) and my
> mother
> would be MF (for female parent of M). Her father would be MFM and his
> mother would be MFMF. Alas, M and F could also be interpreted as
> ³mother²
> and ³father² so the meaning would have to be explained at the outset.
>
> I happen to know that in my case MFMFMMFM is Rabbi Menachem Mendel
> Stern,
> where I am the M on the left. It seems like a compact way of
> writing it
> and with a name attached it gives a unique designation except for
> those
> ancestors who are in two or more places on the chart, of whom there
> are
> many in most families I am sure.
>
> Gary Davis
>
>
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