Re: [Cz-L] The lure of Sadagura

From: Hardy Breier <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 06:05:00 +0300
To: "'Taylor, Miriam R'" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>, "'Paul Heger'" <pheger_at_gmail.com>
Reply-To: "Hardy Breier" <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net>


I wonder how Mimi , who left Cz when she was 5 knows
so much about religion in old time Czernorwitz.
I left at 14 and my knowledge is near to zero.
Therefore I will not write about religion.
I can write how we built the Maginot Line out
of snow on the Russischegass and how it collapsed
and had to be dug out.
  This I remember well.

Hardy
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îàú: Taylor, Miriam R [mailto:mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu]
ðùìç: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:36 PM
àì: Paul Heger
òåú÷: Simon Kreindler; Fred Weisinger; Hardy Breier; Czernowitz Genealogy
and History
ðåùà: Re: [Cz-L] The lure of Sadagura

I would like to add to what Paul wrote about the degree and manner in the
way
Czernowitz Jews kept their religious believes and customs;

The Jewish community of Czernowitz in the years between the two world wars
Included strictly religious people, many of them followers of various
Hassidic rabbis,
Many who were strictly religious did not follow a Hassidic rabbi and
Often made fun 
of the Hassidim and their rabbis. (For instance the words of one song were:
Nisim, 
Nisim ve Neflues, Der Rebbe geyt arein ins wasser and kimmt arois a nasser. 
(Miracles, miracles and wonders The Rabbi Gose into the water and comes out
wet), 
those born in Czernowitz
In the early part of the 20th century, had lost their beliefs, did not
attend synagogue
Except on high holidays and did not keep Kosher kitchens.

But many of the non-religious had orthodox relatives and generally the peace
was kept
Within families. In the 1920ies and thirties  Czernowitz was not considered
religious
Enough for the very orthodox. My great-grandparents who had moved to
Czernowitz 
in 1880 left to go back to Maramures in 1915 for just this reason.

Mimi
Sent from my iPad

On May 31, 2015, at 10:07 AM, "Paul Heger" <pheger_at_gmail.com> wrote:
I see that the topic of the wedding in Sadagura became a real interesting
issue. I would like to broaden somewhat its boundaries, and discuss the
different groups of Czernowitzer Jews, that is, their attachment to their
religion. There were, in my opinion, orthodox Jews, and I refer to Jews who
meticulously kept the religious obligations, such as total Sabbath rest,
strictly kosher food, daily prayer, traditional Jewish education to their
children and so on. On the opposite side, we had in Czernowitz assimilated
Jews, of which many did not even know to read the Hebrew Sidur, and went to
the Temple to say kaddish, reading it from a prayer book in Latin
characters.  And then were the bulk of the Jews, who considered themselves
“religious.” Many went Sabbath morning to an orthodox ”Schil”, did not
approve the playing of the organ on Sabbath in the Temple, but went from
there to open their stores, if their wives could not do it. There was no
reform congregation in Czernowitz, like in Germany or in Hungary to create a
suitable organization with recommended customs and behavior, but I believe
that those Jews who went to the “Schil,” and did not keep the Shabbat,
preferred the warm atmosphere and the imploring and exciting prayer songs.  
This segment of the Czernowitzer Jews went to meet the “Rebbes,” when they
visited Czernowitz, to give them a “Quittel,” a small piece of paper on
which the Gabbe wrote their requests asking the Rebbe to bless them to
attain the accomplishment  of  their wishes. Every visitor obviously left
some money on the Rebbe’s table. Here enters the magic aspect of the
“Wunderrabbiner”, as the Rebbes were called in German; in Yiddish one
defines the “Ruv” the learned rabbi, the religious head of the congregation,
and the hassidic “Rebbe,” whose qualifications were in another domain, in
their magical power of their closeness to the Almighty and their influence
on Him.  And since many believed in the Rebbe’s power, it was accepted as
true by others, including non-orthodox Jews, who joined therm.
Now I come to Simon’s question; I assume that what he wrote that his
grandfather was no hassid, he intended he was not orthodox. As I explained
above, the non orthodox Jews in East Europe, (Ukraine was the birthplace of
the hassidic movement) like those in Czernowitz believed in God and in the
magic power of the “Rebbes.” The “Rebbe”s wishes at the wedding were
appreciated as a good omen for a successful married life, and therefore he
went to Sadagura. We may compare it to the recent custom in Israel the
kissing of the “mezuzah” by people who do not lead a religiously prescribed
life. The belief in the magic power instigates it.
Paul
 

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