Hi Berti,
Yes, I think your guess concerning the "author" of the form is at least as =
good as mine, since my grandfather Elias and his sister Sara were 12 and 13=
respectively in 1890 and the handwriting doesn't look childish at all.
A possible Glaubach/Hauster meeting generations ago is more than a nice sce=
nario, it is most likely. All of them, my great-grandfather Isak Hauster an=
d his wife Chane Jente Silber as well as her parents Jankel and Gitel Silbe=
r and in addition seven more Hauster, Silber and Rudel family members were =
registered at the turn of the 19th/20th century at Kuczurmarerstrasse, hous=
e nos. 22, 30 and 42; you family at Schiessstädt-Gasse and Popper-Gasse w=
as just around the corner!
Nevertheless, dear Berti, a fin de (19th) siècle meeting doesn't replace =
a contemporary meeting at all, so I don't abandon this idea. Next year in C=
zernowitz, or somewhere else between Haifa and Düsseldorf...?!
Warmest wishes to you!
Edgar Hauster
________________________________
> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:50:29 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Jewish Taxpayers in Bukovina at the End of 18th Centu=
ry
> From: berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com
> To: bconcept_at_hotmail.com
> CC: mkransdorff_at_gmail.com; jwald_at_hampshire.edu; dyurigub_at_gmail.com;
> czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu; markwiznitzer_at_gmail.com;
> josefineaz_at_gmail.com; cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net
>
> Hi Edgar,
>
> Of course Elias as the only one mentioned on the "Formular" of being
> able to write and read is the most probable candidate to be the one to =
> fill it out.....Still looking at the writing I think the job was done
> by some clerk, probably going around from house to house (although
> according to instructions this should not have been so) or copying it
> from the one made by the owner of the house.
>
> How old was Elias in 1980? Should he at his age have such an
> "ausgeschriebene und auch kaligraphische Schrift?
> Your guess as good as mine.
>
> Getting more personal about a possible Hauster/Glaubach meeting. Since =
> it did not occur personally in our generation I
> am satisfied with the idea that my grandfather Berl Glaubach who lived =
> with his family on Schiestaedtgasse 8, at some 20
> houses distance around the corner from Kutschamarastrasse 30, might
> nave known Isak or Elias from the Schiel that must have been somewhere =
> near by. He also had a Heuscheune on Poppergasse 12 in the vicinity.
> Berl was born in Kutschamare 1960 , moved to Czernowitz probably in his =
> 20th and died in Prag in 1917 in refuge during WWI. But his wife and
> the older sisters of my father stayed on the same address till 1936, so =
> if your family was still around in that Quarter after 1890 somehow they =
> should have met one of yours. Also my father (later an absolute
> atheist) went to a cheder during the first years of 1900.
>
> Also unconnected to all this: somebody I cannot trace mentioned the
> name of Brender, that was the family name of my grandmother Sara,
> Berl's wife.
>
> Speculations of an old man.
>
> All the best yo you and yours,
> Berti.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Edgar Hauster
> <bconcept_at_hotmail.com<mailto:bconcept_at_hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Berti...
>
> You raised a most interesting question, i. e. who exactly filled in the =
> data for the census effected as per December 31, 1890. I rechecked (and =
> uploadad) the instructions by the Austrian authorities, compared them
> and additionally the entry with the signature (see below)
>
> http://goo.gl/qVRzDF
> http://ehpes.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_2232.jpg
> http://ehpes.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_22331.jpg
>
> and come to the conclusion, that it was most probably Isak Hauster
> himself, as the houseowner of Kuczurmarerstrasse No. 30, who filled in =
> the form.
>
> Well, Isak Hauster and Chane Jente Silber were my great-grandparents
> and Elias (my grandfather), Salamon, Lea and Sara were their children. =
> Isak was in fact a school janitor, but it was a "shul/synagogue" rather =
> than a "Schule/school". They were poor people - the wealth came by the =
> daughter-in-law = Elias' wife - and their ordinary language was
> Yiddish. That's why I'm assuming, that they apparently did not know to =
> write or to read (German), except my grandfather Elias, and his sister =
> Sara. But how could Isak fill in the form, perhaps assisted by his more =
> educated children - who knows...?
>
> Thank you, Berti, for drawing once again my attention to this census
> primary data!
>
> Edgar Hauster
>
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