Hi Edgar,
Of course Elias as the only one mentioned on the "Formular" of being able
to write and read is the most probable candidate to be the one to fill it
out.....Still looking at the writing I think the job was done by some
clerk, probably going around from house to house (although according to
instructions this should not have been so) or copying it from the one made
by the owner of the house.
How old was Elias in 1980? Should he at his age have such an
"ausgeschriebene und auch kaligraphische Schrift?
Your guess as good as mine.
Getting more personal about a possible Hauster/Glaubach meeting. Since it
did not occur personally in our generation I
am satisfied with the idea that my grandfather Berl Glaubach who lived with
his family on Schiestaedtgasse 8, at some 20
houses distance around the corner from Kutschamarastrasse 30, might nave
known Isak or Elias from the Schiel that must have been somewhere near by.
He also had a Heuscheune on Poppergasse 12 in the vicinity. Berl was born
in Kutschamare 1960 , moved to Czernowitz probably in his 20th and died in
Prag in 1917 in refuge during WWI. But his wife and the older sisters of my
father stayed on the same address till 1936, so if your family was still
around in that Quarter after 1890 somehow they should have met one of
yours. Also my father (later an absolute atheist) went to a cheder during
the first years of 1900.
Also unconnected to all this: somebody I cannot trace mentioned the name of
Brender, that was the family name of my grandmother Sara, Berl's wife.
Speculations of an old man.
All the best yo you and yours,
Berti.
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Edgar Hauster <bconcept_at_hotmail.com> wrote=
:
> Berti...
>
> You raised a most interesting question, i. e. who exactly filled in the
> data for the census effected as per December 31, 1890. I rechecked (and
> uploadad) the instructions by the Austrian authorities, compared them and
> additionally the entry with the signature (see below)
>
> http://goo.gl/qVRzDF
> http://ehpes.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_2232.jpg
> http://ehpes.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_22331.jpg
>
> and come to the conclusion, that it was most probably Isak Hauster
> himself, as the houseowner of Kuczurmarerstrasse No. 30, who filled in th=
e
> form.
>
> Well, Isak Hauster and Chane Jente Silber were my great-grandparents and
> Elias (my grandfather), Salamon, Lea and Sara were their children. Isak w=
as
> in fact a school janitor, but it was a "shul/synagogue" rather than a
> "Schule/school". They were poor people - the wealth came by the
> daughter-in-law =3D Elias' wife - and their ordinary language was Yiddish=
.
> That's why I'm assuming, that they apparently did not know to write or to
> read (German), except my grandfather Elias, and his sister Sara. But how
> could Isak fill in the form, perhaps assisted by his more educated childr=
en
> - who knows...?
>
> Thank you, Berti, for drawing once again my attention to this census
> primary data!
>
> Edgar Hauster
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 21:09:51 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Jewish Taxpayers in Bukovina at the End of 18th
> Century
> > From: berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com
> > To: bconcept_at_hotmail.com
> > CC: mkransdorff_at_gmail.com; jwald_at_hampshire.edu; dyurigub_at_gmail.com;
> czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu; markwiznitzer_at_gmail.com; josefineaz_at_gmail.com;
> cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net
> >
> > Well Edgar this Isak Hauster was a Janitor and had no physical or
> > mental infirmities, but did he or did he not know to write or read?
> > The Austrian registrar was quite careless in his duties not to fill
> > the data in that column.
> > Do you know how you are related?
> > [Berti Glaubach]
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