My great grandmother Mariem Brender was born in Sadagura in the 1870s.
She had a sister called Tillie Brender who married a man called Zusse
Brender (same last name but different families).
They had four children Kalman,Chaika Beila Brender Gottlieb ,Golda Brender
Weindengorh and Chezkel.
Two other brothers of Mariem Brender were Avraham and Leibush Brender.
Avraham moved to southern Tel Aviv and had some ten children.
Chaika Beila Brender's daughter Sylvia Gottlieb Metsch and her offspring
live in Australia.
Chezkel Brender's son and his offspring live in Paris.
Kalman Brender and Golda Brender Weindengorh and their families perished
in Transnestria.
Zusse Brender had a nephew called Isadore Brender who owned an electrical
appliance store in Tel Aviv.
Any connections ?
ODED BLAUSTEIN
2015-11-20 10:50 GMT+02:00 Berti Glaubach <berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Edgar,
>
> Of course Elias as the only one mentioned on the "Formular" of being able
> to write and read is the most probable candidate to be the one to fill it
> out.....Still looking at the writing I think the job was done by some
> clerk, probably going around from house to house (although according to
> instructions this should not have been so) or copying it from the one made
> by the owner of the house.
>
> How old was Elias in 1980? Should he at his age have such an
> "ausgeschriebene und auch kaligraphische Schrift?
> Your guess as good as mine.
>
> Getting more personal about a possible Hauster/Glaubach meeting. Since it
> did not occur personally in our generation I
> am satisfied with the idea that my grandfather Berl Glaubach who lived with
> his family on Schiestaedtgasse 8, at some 20
> houses distance around the corner from Kutschamarastrasse 30, might nave
> known Isak or Elias from the Schiel that must have been somewhere near by.
> He also had a Heuscheune on Poppergasse 12 in the vicinity. Berl was born
> in Kutschamare 1960 , moved to Czernowitz probably in his 20th and died in
> Prag in 1917 in refuge during WWI. But his wife and the older sisters of my
> father stayed on the same address till 1936, so if your family was still
> around in that Quarter after 1890 somehow they should have met one of
> yours. Also my father (later an absolute atheist) went to a cheder during
> the first years of 1900.
>
> Also unconnected to all this: somebody I cannot trace mentioned the name of
> Brender, that was the family name of my grandmother Sara, Berl's wife.
>
> Speculations of an old man.
>
> All the best yo you and yours,
> Berti.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Edgar Hauster <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
> wrote=
> :
>
> > Berti...
> >
> > You raised a most interesting question, i. e. who exactly filled in the
> > data for the census effected as per December 31, 1890. I rechecked (and
> > uploadad) the instructions by the Austrian authorities, compared them and
> > additionally the entry with the signature (see below)
> >
> > http://goo.gl/qVRzDF
> > http://ehpes.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_2232.jpg
> > http://ehpes.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_22331.jpg
> >
> > and come to the conclusion, that it was most probably Isak Hauster
> > himself, as the houseowner of Kuczurmarerstrasse No. 30, who filled in
> th=
> e
> > form.
> >
> > Well, Isak Hauster and Chane Jente Silber were my great-grandparents and
> > Elias (my grandfather), Salamon, Lea and Sara were their children. Isak
> w=
> as
> > in fact a school janitor, but it was a "shul/synagogue" rather than a
> > "Schule/school". They were poor people - the wealth came by the
> > daughter-in-law =3D Elias' wife - and their ordinary language was
> Yiddish=
> .
> > That's why I'm assuming, that they apparently did not know to write or to
> > read (German), except my grandfather Elias, and his sister Sara. But how
> > could Isak fill in the form, perhaps assisted by his more educated
> childr=
> en
> > - who knows...?
> >
> > Thank you, Berti, for drawing once again my attention to this census
> > primary data!
> >
> > Edgar Hauster
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 21:09:51 +0200
> > > Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Jewish Taxpayers in Bukovina at the End of 18th
> > Century
> > > From: berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com
> > > To: bconcept_at_hotmail.com
> > > CC: mkransdorff_at_gmail.com; jwald_at_hampshire.edu; dyurigub_at_gmail.com;
> > czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu; markwiznitzer_at_gmail.com; josefineaz_at_gmail.com;
> > cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net
> > >
> > > Well Edgar this Isak Hauster was a Janitor and had no physical or
> > > mental infirmities, but did he or did he not know to write or read?
> > > The Austrian registrar was quite careless in his duties not to fill
> > > the data in that column.
> > > Do you know how you are related?
> > > [Berti Glaubach]
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