Hi Mark,
More about Olmitz, Maehren: Town was known before WW1 as Olmuetz (umlaut over the u), Moravia, Austrian Empire. It is the present day city of Olomouc, Czech Republic. During WW1, some of my relatives from Sadagora re-located to 38 miles to the southwest of Olmutz, in Brno.
You might find some resources here:
https://www.jewishgen.org/AustriaCzech/
Best,
Bruce
?On 10/9/18, 23:25, "Mark London" <mrl_at_psfc.mit.edu> wrote:
Thanks! I had no idea that family search had images of these records.
Much appreciated! I'll go take some advil, and then try to read them,
without getting a headache. : )- Mark
On 10/9/2018 7:36 PM, Bruce Reisch wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> Welcome to the Czernowitz list! Many of us have similar questions; hopefully you'll find some answers here!
>
> About the passenger manifest - I read "Olmitz, Maehren" - the latter indicating Moravia. At the time of WWI, many (including my family) moved to the west and away from the fighting. Moravia at the time was still a part of the Austrian empire.
>
> Regarding the BMD database - it was created from handwritten indices that were compiled at the time the records themselves were being written. If a maiden name appeared in the handwritten index, it then also appeared in the online database. By going to the original record on Family Search, you'll be able to find a maiden name - if it also appears in the actual marriage record. For sure, there will be more details in the record than in the index.
>
> That's all I have for you right now.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Bruce Reisch
> Geneva, NY
>
> ?On 10/9/18, 19:21, "bounce-122978020-3497436_at_list.cornell.edu on behalf of Mark London" <bounce-122978020-3497436_at_list.cornell.edu on behalf of mrl_at_psfc.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi - I'm trying to help someone research their family tree. Help would
> be appreciated.
>
> Do the marriage records for the Czernowitz BMD database, contain the
> maiden name of the wife? Sometimes I see it listed in the index, other
> times not.
>
> For example, there is a marriage record from 1890, husband name Naftali
> Tepper, wife's name is Selde, without a maiden name listed. But maybe
> it simply was transcribed for the database?
>
> The couple that I'm looking for, is Naftaly Tepper and "Sussi Shapsa".
> So this could bethei marriage record. But without a maiden name on the
> record, I would never know for sure. Is it likely to be on an 1890
> marriage record?
>
> I did find marriage record for Sussi's sister Beile, who married Jakob
> Reisberg. So at least I know that the Shabse family did live in
> Czernowitz.
>
> However, I'm not sure if the Tepper family actually lived in Czernowitz
> proper. The Teppers had 3 children, all of who claim to have been born
> in town called something like "Bojan". Does anyone what this refers to?
>
> When the first arrived in America in 1915, she lists that her father's
> address as not Czernowitz itself, but instead "52 Vorstadt Ross - Olimtz
> Mikrew". Or at least it looks like that. Does anyone know what
> location that is referring to? See:
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TX-K9T3-K
>
> When the next 2 sibling immigrated, it looks like the father had passed
> away, because immigration record lists their mother's name instead, with
> an address in Czernowitz. Likely the father died, and the family to
> Czernowitz, which is where her Shabse family originally came from. Or
> at least that's my guess.
>
> A side issue is that this surname in America records, is listed as being
> something like "Shapsa". In the transcriptions, it is listed as
> Shabse. Would anyone know if the correct pronunciation would be with a
> P or a B? :) Thanks very much.
>
> Mark London
> Natick, MA
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