Re: [Cz-L] A Question!

From: Shelley <>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:45:37 -0400
To: cornel fleming <>
Reply-To: Shelley <>

Cornel -

I don't think it's possible to refute one man's opinion based on his
personal experience with the anecdotal experience of others. The
Rabbi's title certainly does not add to the validity of his views. My
grandfather proudly served but died before I was born. However, my
grandmother would have mentioned if he had a particularly difficult
time as a Jew. The only way to refute what was quoted is to find
literary references to that period and the larger picture. Many who
served in the US military had very bad experiences with anti-Semitism
but it doesn't mean that anti-Semitism was rampant in the US military.
Have you read the full text of Rabbi Greenwald's account of his


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:34 AM, cornel fleming
<> wrote:
> I have just been to a lecture by Prof. Derek Penslar (look him up on Google)
> and as a result bought his book"Jews and the Military". In the book he
> says "Jews in Austria-Hungary had a motive for fighting,a fierce dynastic
> loyalty due to its stalwart identification of the governing regime with the
> protection of Jewish rights". But. he also says that"Jews in the Dual
> Monarchy's military forces documented brutal,unremitting,and oppressive
> anti-Semitism...yet there were also displays of friendship,tolerance and
> respect". In the foot-notes his comment re anti-Semitism appears to be
> based on "The prominent Hungarian Rabbi Jekutiel Judah Greenwald who wrote
> a decidedly lachrymose narrative of his war service with an account of
> brutal and humiliating anti-Semitism". Now my question...many members
> of my family fought for Franz Joseph and none of them reported this. Since
> the Prof is based here in England I would like to challenge this bit of his
> any family stories from the list might be of value!! Best to
> all, Cornel
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