Re: [Cz-L] How many Jews died in Bukowina during the war?

Who is Trajan Popovici?

Here is a map of the territory controlled by Romania under General
Antonescu. It includes Odessa even just outside Nikolaev, where there
were no Romanians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rom1942.png

Here is a map of Bessarabia, where one can see no Transnistria

http://www.ualberta.ca/~german/PAA/bessarabia.gif

Read this quote from http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/606

> Antonescu agreed to participate in the military occupation of
> Transnistria as well as in the eventually disastrous German campaigns
> up to Stalingrad. At the same time he was careful to reject
> suggestions by Hitler and others that Romania might annex
> trans-Dniestrian lands in exchange for its losses in Transylvania. He
> repeatedly raised the Transylvanian issue in his meetings with Hitler,
> and though the Romanians took military control of Transnistria, they
> pointedly refused to annex it.

Antonescu did NOT want this territory, and this may be a reason the Jews
in those areas were left at the discretion of local pro-nazi authorities
(mostly extremist Ukrainian, Polish, Romanians)

Here is number of 300,000 Jews again, now only for Bukowina and Bessarabia:

> Much more deadly was the Romanian deportation program designed to
> ethnically cleanse the re-claimed provinces of Bessarabia and
> Bukovina. This gained momentum in 1941, after the Romanians were given
> control of the area between the Dniester and the Bug usually referred
> to as Transnistria. Thousands of Jews were herded across the Dniester;
> those who could not make it because of illness or age were executed on
> the spot. In the end, by Deletant's calculations, 220,000–260,000 Jews
> died there under Romanian auspices

If the entire Jewish population of Bukowina was 27,000, how does the
author go to 10x, 270,000 which is almost equal the total number of
300,000 jews killed in Romania?

I must explain, that far from belittling the what happen in Transnistria
(my horror as a child started with Arnold Daghani, someone I knew and I
trusted so much), I want t actually to strengthen the case.

So reading about Mikailowka, can we imagine today in 2012 with CNN and
Internet and twitter, to have 4,000 Jews assassinated in one or two
nights anywhere in S Europe? . Israeli commandos will be there over
night and Mossad will start assassinating one by one, even it takes 10
years the perpetrators of this genocide. But the local governments,
aware of the history, would be first to act. By the time we say 300,000
all is out of the power of imagination.

A better researched number, with more details of the perpetrators, will
be more efficient to combat those who denied this happened. If we do not
even know what each writer means by Transnistria, how can we count
ANYTHING there?

My 2 cents

M

On 6/23/2012 1:42 PM, Mordecai Lapidot wrote:
> Just a brief note re the number of those who perished in Transnistria - the
> large number mentioned includes of course a huge portion of the Jews from
> Bessarabia who, I believe, were deported almost in their entirety to
> Transnistria. Regrettably there was no Trajan Popovici there.
>
> Shavua Tov
>
> Mordecai
>

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