Re: [Cz-L] Yiddish from Paul Heger on 2017-01-12 (The Czernowitz-L Archive)

From: Paul Heger <pheger_at_gmail.com_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:48:30 +0200
To: hardy <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net>
Reply-To: Paul Heger <pheger_at_gmail.com>

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Yiddish is a rich language which expresses nuances and aphorisms of Jewish
life and customs, during centuries, which no other language could achieve.
I is a language developed by speakers of the wide range of Jews from highly
intellectuals, international business people, small shop keepers, artisans
and yes, also thieves. The current renaissance of Yiddish by the Ultra
orthodox segment of the Jewish people and in the Universities cannot
restore the vitality of a language spoken by the wide range of Jewish
society during centuries and the influence of different cultures and
languages on the life of the Yiddish Diaspora and its language.

The =E2=80=9Cshaming=E2=80=9D of some Czernowitzer =E2=80=9CDaitschen=E2=80=
=9D of the Yiddish speaking
people was similar to the attitude of the German Jews toward the Ostjuden.
Jewish German intellectuals such as Martin Buber and Franz Rosenzweig,
however, admired their Jewish cultural vitality.

Paul/Pessach Heger

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:26 PM, hardy <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net> wrote:

> Some want to know more than stated:
> they want not only language :
> They must know the how,the why
> and the when of it !
>
> Hardy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-121142240-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-121142240-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Margaret
> Gross
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:44 AM
> To: Ruth Levin
> Cc: Czernowitz Discussion Group
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Yiddish
>
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>
> My parents both spoke Roumanian, and my father spoke some German, having
> moved to Czernowitz as a teenager. They married in 1940
> My mother and her 2 siblings spoke only German to each other until they
> passed away in the 1990s. Never a word of yiddish.
> In Canada, most of my parents friends, were yiddish-speaking survivors fr=
om
> Poland. At first my mothers yiddish was very poor, but it gradually
> improved.
>
> As far as prejudice - yes on my grandparents part. They spoke yiddish
> coming from Galicia, but conducted themselves in czernowitz in german onl=
y.
> My grandfather started as a poor watch-maker, and became a fairly propero=
us
> businessman.
> [Margaret Gross]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yiddish is a
rich language which expresses nuances and aphorisms of Jewish life and cust=
oms,
during centuries, which no other language could achieve. I is a language
developed by speakers of the wide range of Jews from highly intellectuals, =
international
business people, small shop keepers, artisans and yes, also thieves. The cu=
rrent
renaissance of Yiddish by the Ultra orthodox segment of the Jewish people a=
nd
in the Universities cannot restore the vitality of a language spoken by the
wide range of Jewish society during centuries and the influence of differen=
t
cultures and languages on the life of the Yiddish Diaspora and its language=
.

The =E2=80=9Cshaming=E2=80=9D
of some Czernowitzer =E2=80=9CDaitschen=E2=80=9D of the Yiddish speaking pe=
ople was similar to
the attitude of the German Jews toward the Ostjuden. Jewish German intellec=
tuals
such as Martin Buber and Franz Rosenzweig, however, admired their Jewish cu=
ltural
vitality. =C2=A0=C2=A0Paul/Pessach Heger</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"> <div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:26 PM, hardy <=
<a href=3D"mailto:hardy3_at_bezeqint.net" target=3D"_blank">hardy3_at_bezeqint.ne=
t</a>> wrote: <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Some want to know=
more than stated: 
they want not only language : 
They must know the how,the why 
and the when of it ! 
 
Hardy 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: <a href=3D"mailto:bounce-121142240-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu">bounce-1=
21142240-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu</a> 
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bounce-121142240-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu">bounce=
-121142240-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Margaret 
Gross 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:44 AM<=
br>
To: Ruth Levin 
Cc: Czernowitz Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Yiddish 
 
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My parents both spoke Roumanian, and my father spoke some German, having<br=
>
moved to Czernowitz as a teenager. They married in 1940 
My mother and her 2 siblings spoke only German to each other until they 
passed away in the 1990s. Never a word of yiddish. 
In Canada, most of my parents friends, were yiddish-speaking survivors from=
 
Poland. At first my mothers yiddish was very poor, but it gradually 
improved. 
 
As far as prejudice - yes on my grandparents part. They spoke yiddish 
coming from Galicia, but conducted themselves in czernowitz in german only.=
 
My grandfather started as a poor watch-maker, and became a fairly properous=
 
businessman. 
[Margaret Gross] 
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