Hi Mark,
The transcription of the two register entries you were looking for, reads as follows:
Trauungsmatrik [Marriage Register]
[Postzahl] 39
[Bräutigam] Schabse Schapse geb. in Czernowitz Mehlhändler in Rosch 52, S. des verst. Tischlers Leib Schapse u. der verst. Selde geb. Stiegler, 55 Jahre, ledig
[Braut] Sure Etie Habermann geb. in Czernowitz, wohnhaft daselbst Rosch 52, T. des verst. Geschäftsführers Joel u. der verst. Jached geb. Dober, 52 Jahre, ledig
[Trauung] 21. März 1889 Czernow.
[Anmerkung] Verkündigung laut No. 21 u. z. vom 2., 9. u. 16. März 1889. Geburtsdaten des Bräutigams laut Reisepaß Czernowitz, Stadt-Mag. v. 6/10 1881 Zl. 2528 (vorgezeigt). Alter der Braut laut Reise-Certificat v. Stadt-Mag. ddo Czern. 4/5 1882 Zl. 28 (vorgezeigt).
Die Getrauten erklären ihre früher zur Welt gebrachten Kinder als ehelich, u. z. Sohn Peritz Meier 32 Jahre alt, Tochter Selde 24 Jahre alt, Tochter Frimzie 17 Jahre alt, Tochter Feige 15 Jahre alt, Tochter Lea Hinde 11 Jahre alt und Tochter Beile 6 Jahre alt.
Geburtsmatrik [Birth Register]
[Zeile] 58
[Geburt] 4.2.1883 Czernowitz Rosch 42
[Namensbeilegung] 5.2.1883 Czern.
[Name] Beile
[Geschlecht] w
[Stand] uneh.
[Vater] Schabse Schabse Taglöhner
[Mutter] Sure T. des verst. Joel Habermann in Rosch u. der Jached geb. Dober
[Anmerkung] Ehelich legitimirt am 21/3 1889
By the remarks in the Marriage Register Schabse Scha[b/p]se and Sure Etie Habermann were proving their age [52] in the marriage year 1889 and they were legitimizing their six children Peritz Meier, Selde, Frimzie, Feige, Lea Hinde and Beile [see Birth Register]. The civil registration of the marriage in front of the Austrian authorities was not unusual at all at that particular time, despite the fact that for sure the couple was married according to Jewish rite years or even decades earlier.
We do hope these data will be helpful to you. Warmest wishes from Germany!
Edgar Hauster
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From: bounce-123069155-8322570_at_list.cornell.edu <bounce-123069155-8322570_at_list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Mark London <mrl_at_psfc.mit.edu>
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 00:34
To: CZERNOWITZ-L
Subject: [Cz-L] Is this a delayed marriage record?
Hi - I'm confused by something I found on
https://czernowitz.geneasearch.net/index.php
I am researching the descendants of "Schabse Schabse" and "Sara Ette
Haberman", who were born between 1864-1885
Using the above link, I found a 1889 marriage between "Schabse Schabse"
and "Sara Ette Haberman". Is this just a coincidence?
Here's a link to the microfilm image of that Czernowitz marriage record,
on familysearch. It's a mess to read, but can anyone tell me if this
really is the marriage for those names? If so, either these are
different people. Or could it be a delayed marriage record?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9B-7Q8L-G?cat=1378569
Also, here's a link to the last birth of the parents that I'm
researching, from 1885. On line 58.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9R-156W?cat=1378569
All the way to right for that record, there's an 1889 date written in
the last column. Can anyone tell me what that date means? Is it just
a coincidence, that the year, happens to be the year of the above
marriage record? Or could it be referencing that record?
Thanks for any help that anyone can provide. Thanks!
Mark
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